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RE: [Syslog-sec] I-D ACTION:draft-ietf-syslog-transport-udp-02.txt



Anton,

thanks for your great work.

Some points:

- you use "domain.com" in some examples. I recommend changing this to
"example.com", which has been reserved for this use.

- In 3.4, the draft says:

######
   All implementations MUST support sending and receiving syslog
   messages up to and including the size which does not require
   fragmentation (507 bytes for IPv4 and 1191 bytes for IPv6).  This
   size excludes the overhead of the syslog transport and UDP/IP
   headers.  Support for larger messages is encouraged.  Implementors
   SHOULD clearly state the maximum supported message size in
   documentation.
######

Actually, all implementations MUST support a message size of 65,000
bytes, because this is the required minimum in -protocol 4.1. We agreeed
on this minimum after long discussions on the message size. I'd actually
prefer not to re-iterate this. But if we must, let me say that a
guaranteed message size of 507 bytes looks far too low to me.

Please note that the -protcol requirement meant that all implementations
MUST support fragmentation.

Sorry I didn't spot this in the -01 version...

I've also noticed that in -protocol, I have limited that max message
size to 16,000,000 bytes in -protocol. It might make sense to sync this.
I can go up with my number.

I do not fully understand what you mean in 4.2 by:

#####
 No concurrent port reuse on the same host is
   allowed.
#####

It's probably just my English, but I do not get it. I'd appreciate if
you could elaborate a little.

Thanks for the great draft!
Rainer


> -----Original Message-----
> From: syslog-sec-bounces@www.employees.org 
> [mailto:syslog-sec-bounces@www.employees.org] On Behalf Of 
> Anton Okmianski
> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 4:20 PM
> To: syslog-sec@employees.org
> Subject: RE: [Syslog-sec] I-D 
> ACTION:draft-ietf-syslog-transport-udp-02.txt
> 
> Hi!
> 
> Updates in this draft include:
> 
> 1. UDP checksums are now a SHOULD instead of a MUST for IPv4.
> Checking checksums by receiver when available is still a MUST.   
> 
> 2. Requirement about using the same port for a given process was
> removed.  This opens up the possibility for a given process to have
> multiple sockets sending syslog messages.  The requirement about using
> the same MessageId and source port for fragments of a given message is
> still there, so we are covered for message reassembly. 
> 
> 3. The references were split into Normative and Informative.
> 
> Based on limited feedback I got for previous version, I believe the
> draft is ready to be published.  It has to be published together with
> syslog-protocol when both are ready.   
> 
> Thanks,
> Anton.
> 
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> > Subject: [Syslog-sec] I-D 
> > ACTION:draft-ietf-syslog-transport-udp-02.txt
> > 
> > 
> > A New Internet-Draft is available from the on-line 
> > Internet-Drafts directories. This draft is a work item of the 
> > Security Issues in Network Event Logging Working Group of the IETF.
> > 
> > 	Title		: Transmission of syslog messages over UDP
> > 	Author(s)	: A. Okmianski
> > 	Filename	: draft-ietf-syslog-transport-udp-02.txt
> > 	Pages		: 21
> > 	Date		: 2004-9-1
> > 	
> > This document describes the transport for syslog messages over UDP/
> >    IPv4 or UDP/IPv6.  While several transport mappings are
> envisioned
> >    for the syslog protocol, syslog protocol implementors are 
> > required to
> >    support the transport mapping described in this document.  This
> >    transport specification overcomes limitations of UDP/IP 
> > datagram size
> >    by introducing support for fragmentation of large messages.
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